Comments on: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2022 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/ Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup Tue, 05 Dec 2023 04:59:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Brice Fleckenstein https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-330567 Tue, 05 Dec 2023 04:59:09 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-330567 In reply to John eFfing Kennedy.

Do keep in mind that HGST *IS* Western Digital – and got bought out almost a decade ago.
As part of the regulatory requirements for WD to buy Toshiba, Toshiba got some technology (appears to have included HeliSeal) so they could “be more competative” and at least one drive factory.
WD got a flood-damaged factory from Toshiba in Thailand.
There was also a requirement that WD operate HGST as a separate company, lasted 2-3 years but has long since been waived.

BTW – Seagate was even MORE famed for selling SMR drives and not telling folks they were SMR – not the Archive 8TB, those were well known to be SMR – but some of their later drive models in the Exos line.
WD was at least always putting “SMR” in their drive data sheets SOMEWHERE – Seagate skipped that option a couple times.
And WD was VERY up front on their current 26TB offering being SMR.

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By: John eFfing Kennedy https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-330566 Mon, 04 Dec 2023 19:36:08 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-330566 In reply to Brice Fleckenstein.

I think Seagate and WD are the worst offenders for this, especially with the issues with the SG3TB Drives and WD’s changing of CMR to SMR for certain Drives.

HGST and Toshiba have a rather good reputation overall in the consumer market, with failures being rare.

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By: Robin https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329927 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 16:43:21 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329927 But what does this all mean for the average (not super technical) user of a desktop external hard drive? How can I find out which brand is the most reliable? I have been using two G-Drives and one has now been corrupting files. I turn it on and off daily, only when I am using it. I am really dismayed that I need to find a new drive already. But what brand?

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By: Brice Fleckenstein https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329900 Thu, 30 Mar 2023 05:32:01 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329900 In reply to Squeaky’21.

WD seems to have learned a lot about quality from HGST in the time they owned them but had to “operate” them separately due to Chinese government issues.
The SMR mess was sad, but the actual quality of the drives is very good overall.

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By: Brice Fleckenstein https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329899 Thu, 30 Mar 2023 05:29:21 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329899 In reply to Johan Van Hoof.

Seagate has a very long pattern.
Their factories with the best QC get used to supply OEMs like Dell, HP, and such, as those OEMs are almost certain to “return” drives for refund/credit.
Then the “left over” production of those factories, and the output of the OTHER factories, are what are used to supply the “retail” sales channel – as a lot of THOSE drives do not get returned due to the “hassle” of dealing with the the whole issue by an individual on one drive.

I’ve not noticed this same pattern out of WD/HGST or Toshiba.

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By: danwat1234 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329896 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:08:19 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329896 In reply to Mark.

I have a hunch low Power Cycle Count helps longevity because less temperature cycles.

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By: danwat1234 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329895 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:07:12 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329895 I have a Chia Farm where a good 300TiB is from high-hours used 3 and 4TB drives from eBay. At least 35 drives with 55K to 75K hours, just a few have failed since I put them to use. Some have a couple of bad sectors since I got them but hasn’t grown in number, or barely.

Other drives are newer, we will see. About 10 WD 10/12TB externals, maybe 6 SMR 8TB Seagate externals. Then a bunch of Exos 16TBs they seem very well designed and run cool it’ll be interesting with the Helium after 10 years…

I have 2 PCs whose system drive are 250GB WD Enterprise Drives WD2502ABYS with 90K hours, perfect SMART. 24/7 as Distributed Computing PCs

1 PC with a WD10002FBYS 1TB with 98.1K hours 24/7 Distributed Computing. Perfect SMART.

Yes, majority of my drives have relatively low Power Cycle count. I believe that helps. Temperature variation causes stress perhaps moreso than just steadystate on all the time. Fluidic bearings last forever? Lubrication of read/write heads servo arms causes no wear no matter how many billions of accesses?

About bad sectors.. they don’t necessarily go exponential. I have a 24/7 torrent seeder PC with a 4TB Hitachi HUS724040ALE640 , random reads very heavily nearly constantly and the drive is nearly full. When I set it up, bad sectors were rising and preemptively cloned the drive to swap when it fails. But, for months now it has stayed at 24 reallocated. About 75K hours.

Also, 2.5″ Samsung Spinpoint M9T 2TB 55K hours, 24/7 storage drive has had some heavy use, perfect SMART

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By: Mark https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329890 Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:30:20 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329890 Are the drives continuously operated (24/7/365) or are they ever powered on/off?
I’m curious if the lifespan of a HDD is affected (positively or negatively) by downtime, or if there is a pattern/correlation based of drive total life / operating life / count of on/off power sequences.
Thanks.

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By: ndfan77 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/#comment-329823 Thu, 09 Mar 2023 22:14:53 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=107874#comment-329823 The three WDC drives at the end of the 2022 report seem to be unsung heroes (best AFR’s except the curious case of the 8TB Seagates)… Seems strange that you’re not using more WDC drives?

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