Comments on: Backblaze Drive Stats for Q1 2021 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/ Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:14:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Mikko Rantalainen https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-330686 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:14:13 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-330686 In reply to Emanuel Pellizzaro.

It really depends on the HDD failure. If you have the spindle failure (at least one disk separates from the axle even a bit), nobody can recover the data. If you have head touching the disk, the head is destroyed and the are of the disk that the head touched is destroyed and recovering any data from the rest of the drive will require head swap in a clean room laboratory by a skilled engineer. If bearing fails, all the data is lost etc.

It’s true that the most common failure mode of HDD is PCB failure which is typically pretty cheap to deal with because you don’t need a clean room for data recovery. You still need some soldering and a working donor board. With SSD, the PCB failure is the only possible failure mode so it should have at least equal lifetime unless there’s a software bug (in drive firmware).

SSDs have multiple failure modes, too, so you shouldn’t trust that neither SSD nor HDD fail without losing all data at once. Sometimes SSD fail into read-only mode so you can still read all the data but you cannot write anything on the drive.

And if your oldest drive has 23500 hours, you’re just too young or lucky. I have a HDD with about 24000 hours which failed and another HDD with 52136 hours that’s still working fine. And all my SSDs are also working fine.

Always keep backups and remember that you cannot expect to keep a piece of data unless you have at least three copies of it with one of the copies in offline storage. For non-important data, lesser amount of copies may be okay if you’re willing to lose the data if you’re unlucky.

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By: Emanuel Pellizzaro https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-330671 Tue, 13 Feb 2024 07:12:09 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-330671 In reply to Mikko Rantalainen.

May be. The advantege of HDD’s is that you can recover the data, on an SSD, it’s just “near” impossible.

My 1st HDD from 2013 is still working strong, only 192 bad sectors and stopped there, at 23.500 hours on, more or less. And i have more than 12 Seagate drives, no one left me yet.

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By: Ganesh Pandi Rathinam https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328709 Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:12:16 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328709 Hi
What’s the time interval this hdd data captured

Time interval between each row
May be 1 min 5 min ?

Regards
Ganesh
9740806542

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By: Tacitus https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328654 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 13:52:08 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328654 In reply to Abron Marvin.

That’s not entirely true. Even in my very limited experience, I’ve had an SSD fail on me in a way that allowed me to recover the data in full before it completely gave up the ghost. The drive had completely failed in that it no longer booted Windows successfully, but using Linux recovery tools, I was intermittently able to access the drive until it remained operational enough for me to backup all the data stored on it.

While I don’t underestimate the difficulty of a typical SSD recovery, there are certainly SSD recovery services which can help recover data from a variety of different failures, and no doubt as the technology continues to mature, they will find better ways to recover from more types of failure.

Nothing beats having a recent backup on hand, of course.

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By: Mikko Rantalainen https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328286 Sat, 24 Jul 2021 03:47:18 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328286 In reply to Emanuel Pellizzaro.

The write limit is just the warranty limit. It doesn’t say that the drive couldn’t fail earlier. Nor it is a hard limit for the drive either. The “problem” with SSD drives is that they can only fail electronically – in most cases the drive seems to be totally fine until it suddenly fails and all data on the drive is lost. HDD drives can have the same failure mode but they also fail far more often due mechanical problem, and those often have some non-fatal signals before finally giving up (e.g. more seek noise, poor latency, random read errors). As a result, some people feel that HDD drives have smaller probablity of losing data.

In reality HDD drives fail more often because they have both electronic and mechanical failure modes. The typical failure mode is just different.

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By: Emanuel Pellizzaro https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328200 Fri, 09 Jul 2021 22:32:52 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328200 In reply to mami k.

Motor problems are the last thing you’ll see, don’t worry (Just don’t drop the hard drive). Most SMART errors are just a preview of something worse to come. You’ll never predict what a single HDD will do.

For ex: I have a hard drive (ST500DM002 “Made in Brazil” lol) that contains 8904 bad sectors and increasing ONLY at IDLE mode. I need to keep it busy. It’s probably a firmware error, but it’s working strong… It could be the slider slowly scratching the surface too, but only at idle? I don’t think so.

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By: Emanuel Pellizzaro https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328202 Fri, 09 Jul 2021 15:38:29 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328202 How many days are required for the 1st Harddrives to start failing? 3 months?

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By: Emanuel Pellizzaro https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328201 Fri, 09 Jul 2021 15:37:35 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328201 In reply to Nic Houslip.

Why do you guys still buying SanDisk crap?

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By: Emanuel Pellizzaro https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2021/#comment-328199 Fri, 09 Jul 2021 15:26:27 +0000 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?p=98069#comment-328199 In reply to Mikko Rantalainen.

SSD’s will last until their “write TB limit”… The rest is as HDD…

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